What do you think about the recommendations contained in the Phase 1 Community Visioning Report?
50 Registered Statements
January 2, 2012, 3:54 PM
I think this is a big waist of money. What is wrong with a natural gas bus that doesn't cost millions for a little stetch this would cover? You could make it look like a trolley and save millions, cover more area and use less energy. I have been hit over 15 times with property crimes in the last 14 months in Salt Lake. Let's work on the crime in this city instead of constantly spending millions on feel good green stuff that doesn't do anything but waist millions so you can "feel good". How many police could you hire for the amount this is going to cost and maintain? The mayor does not have one property crime item on his blueprint for the city except graffiti removal. I didn't count exactly, but more than 10 green items. By the way he had two detectives assigned to his stolen bike. I am sure others who have had your bike stolen you only get a case number. Unbelivable. Let's get back to making our community safer instead of ingnoring the true purpose of government.
December 12, 2011, 6:35 PM
The idea of having grass instead of cement and asphalt is that it will greatly reduce the foot print of the street car in the area. Also it will reduce the sound of the street car because grass will absorb the sound and not just reverberate off ugly cement. If you do any research at all you would see that this same system has been being used in Freiburg Germany for many years now, and no one there ever gets hurt. So Apparently only americans or children with lazy parents are the only ones that are stupid enough to step in front of these trains. The people that have died from being hit by the trains were not going across grass because it doesn't currently exist in Utah. I think that it is a great idea to have these trains move down a grassy landscaped area, this will give a much needed improvement of care to the areas it will traverse. Also, buffalo grass can be put in the corridor which is native to this area of Utah, which can survive quite well without any additional watering. Because utah is still new to alternative transportation it will still take some time to get enough funding to support light rail in other places, however the fuel and exhaust that will come from a lawnmower for a small area will be significantly less then the million pounds of gas and exhaust that you and your car have already contributed to our air quality this year.
JOY DANTINE in District 1
December 9, 2011, 11:36 AM
Not one observation of public safety is visible by public at large. This depiction is nothing more than a short-sighted and short-distance version of the UTA system (complete with missing safeguards). I envisioned a friendly trolley.
December 8, 2011, 5:21 PM
Great "Sales Pitch" Graphics, they look beautiful, but have no basis in reality. This is a STREETcar project so where is the STREET? All I saw was a grassy area designed to attract children (and others) to run in front of passing "streetcars".
Am I also to believe that all the water utilized to keep the grass green and exaust spewing commercial lawnmowers used to maintain it are good for the environment?
They need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a streetscape that actually works properly for our region. There should be a paved street from one end to the other. It should be only one lane in each direction and accomodate Streetcar and Automobile traffic. Bicycle traffic should be incorporated into an adjacent pedestrian and trail system. Landscaping of the right of way should be limited to xeriscaping with Trees, shrubs, and easy maintinance groundcovers, preferably in well defined planter islands and boxes. Rock mulch should round out the landscape look and provide long term durabilily with minimal maintinance.
At station areas the main automobile traffic should pull away from the streetcar line and return together after the station.
Don't get me wrong though I think adding a streetcar is an excellent idea, it just needs to be thought out better.
Jason Smith in District 6
December 6, 2011, 3:49 PM
I fully support the Sugarhouse line, although while many call for future expansion of this line to then turn and continue north along 11th East towards the U of U. I feel this ignores residents and business that exist further east.
With the new UTA bus route from Summit county to the University of Utah via foothill drive, in addition to the pending rebuild/redesign of Foothill Boulevard, a line that continues east along 21st South to a connecting station where Parley's Way meets Foothill would create a larger loop that takes in more residents and breathes revitalization into a much bigger geographical area than just Sugarhouse.
December 5, 2011, 12:20 PM
I think future phases of the street car should go up 11th east past all the great local shops there, connect Westminster to transit, and then eventually make its way to the U of U for a complete loop around the city (TRAX and street car).
December 5, 2011, 10:04 AM
In theory I am all for more streetcars in Salt Lake. Love the look, love the ease, love public transportation.
I wonder in practice though, how many currently viable businesses (for example Sugarhouse BBQ) will be diminished or put out of business during construction of this? I worked for a business forced to move from the Market Station end of the proposed line six years ago. The company struggled from the forced expenses of moving and is, in fact, still feeling the effect of the added burden of the debt incurred at that time.
Hey it's great that we got a grant to help fund it but what will it actually cost? When we are making cutbacks in city services due to economic pressures what do we really get out of this other than a benefit to future developers of stripmalls? It's great to say that this will economically benefit the community but I already see three big holes (Sugarhouse pit, Cottonwood mall pit and the Market station pit) where businesses that had been there for years used to live.
Make it viable, workable, and affordable and preserve the businesses that are already there and I am for it.
Beverly Hanson in District 5
December 5, 2011, 8:12 AM
This proposal is one more positive step towards building a stronger community, and one that is less reliant on automobiles. As a Realtor, I believe this will give a boost to property values along the proposed route (an area that could use some help). It will also provide many jobs - who could argue with any of this?!
Realtor, Home Energy Advisor
Martin Cuma in District 6
December 3, 2011, 5:36 PM
I am in support of the streetcar project, however, it is essential to construct the bike/ped trail at the same time as the streetcar. It will be more cost effective than doing it separately and will connect to the PRATT now being built to the east under 1300E. Since the trail is of regional importance I think UDOT should pay for the trail.
At the same time, I have seen discussions about how the streetcar and the trail will cross 700 E and State Street. It looks like UDOT would prefer not to have at grade crossing of the trail, and rather have pedestrian bridges. A much better solution to this would be tunnels. They require less grade change than a bridge, making it easier for cyclists and peds to get through, and, one would not have an ugly structure sticking up. Also, in winter and bad weather, tunnel is more protected and safer to use than a bridge. I have just seen recently seen a few such underpass implementations on the Burke-Gilman trail alongside Bothell Way in Kenmore, Wa. and they were a pleasure to ride through. I strongly suggest the planners to check those out. As for funding, again, UDOT should pay for these underpasses as they are of regional transportation importance. If cycling and walking consisted of only a few percent of total commuters, is there a few percent of UDOT's budget spent on ped and cycling projects? I seriously doubt that's the case, so, funding PRATT would be a good start.
December 3, 2011, 3:50 PM
In my opinion, the city has not considered a much better possibility than streetcars. A monorail system is far better, and will be cheaper in the long run, when accidents with cars and people are considered. I have been on two monorail systems at Busch Gardens (Tampa, Florida) and in Australia, and they were far more efficient and safer than ground public transportation.
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