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Should a Fatburger Restaurant open in the Kwik Way building on Lake Park Avenue?
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Semi-anonymous
 February 11, 2007, 5:50 PM

I say yes

Beats what's already there. The Kwik Way is a blight.

Matt Gerhardt
 February 11, 2007, 3:38 PM

I say yes

KwikWay is such an eyesore and smells terrible. The place is filthy. If Fatburger wants to come in and clean up, I say we welcome them with open buns.

Chris Smith
 February 11, 2007, 3:27 PM

I say yes

Kwik Way is disgusting, both in appearance and cuisine, and based on the almost 6 years I have lived here, it will continue to blight the neighborhood into the forseeable future while we wait for a policically acceptable development solution. If BofA won't give up the parking-lot, a multi-story mixed use building is politically and economically unlikely.
I signed the anti-McDonalds petition, but the time has come to do something with the site. We have the opportunity to have a locally-owned business, serving decent food and creating youth jobs (I worked in fast food as a teenager, it is a bad job but it is a job).
Some may not want a drive-through in the area, but the site is less than 100 feet from an eight lane freeway with on-ramps in both directions - if you are going to have a drive-through, this might be the most-transit friendly and ecologically sound place in all of Oakland to have one. And it will generate a maximum of about 1/10th of the traffic that the new Trader Joe's will, and I have yet to hear anyone in the neighborhood come out against that.

Ann Marshall
 February 11, 2007, 1:37 PM

I say yes

Yes, I'll take "class" (FatBurger) over "crass" (continued Kwik Way) for our neighborhood -- any day!

I see no justification for grandfathering Kwik Way's lowclass fastfood burger joint, with its notoriously greasy & unhealthy food, its bad service, and, its blight of trash strewn on the ground. Especially not when given the chance to replace it with its more upscale rival, FatBurger, known for even longer history in CA, and, more importantly: far higher quality of product, service, and, ambiance.

Further, I specifically object to redevelopment proposals that incorporate mixed-use to include any residential housing there, whatsoever. The Kwik Way block gets constant car emissions from the adjacent busy 580 freeway (and commercial merchant districts). Recent news reports declare a proven link between Oakland's epidemic of asthma for children who live near freeways. Health risks are also significant for the adults who live next to freeways too. I believe it's outright wrong to defy this fact by building any new residential housing uses at that particular high-traffic site. I value the health of my Oakland neighbors above the health of developer profits! And we already have new mixed-use housing being developed despite community objections, at the nearby corner of Bellevue/Grand. Enough's enough!

Signed,
a longtime Adams Point Resident

Debra Stein
 February 11, 2007, 9:53 AM

I say yes

The owners, two developers, the city and neighbors have tried to put a mixed use site there -- it ain't happening. Unless very strong voices step up and OK a five-story (not four-story) building, then this site will need to stay all retail.

Semi-anonymous
 February 11, 2007, 12:14 AM

I say yes

Like the Trader Joe's, successful new businesses will encourage other businesses to locate in the Grand Lake Theatre neighborhood. Accepting blight for several years because you'd prefer something other than a fast food establishment hinders further development of the area. The better opportunity some people prefer will be encouraged by Fatburger's success--along with Trader Joe's and other new businesses.

Semi-anonymous
 February 10, 2007, 11:33 PM

I say yes

This is an area already occupied by businesses. Why are you so adamant about keeping out new ones that add convenience and alternatives in our neighborhood? We need more choices of places to eat, buy food and shop so that we can stay here and support our community. Why not a Trader Joe's or Whole Foods as well as Fatburger. I have never quite understood the psyche of the bay area that prohibits new development, economic growth and neighborhood rehabilitation. Isn't it time to come into the 21st century here???

robert seelenbacher
 February 10, 2007, 10:18 PM

I say yes

fatburger is a great restaurant, offering the best burgers found anywhere (yes, barney's included). of all the things so cal, they're the one thing i miss most about my years down south. if they build it, it'll not only become an asset to a vibrant community by bringing jobs to the area, but also allow me to get a great burger without having to drive to pleasant hill to get one.

Semi-anonymous
 February 10, 2007, 7:13 PM

I say yes

Let the owners do what they wish with their private property. The residents of Lake Park Avenue will vote with their dollars whether they like Fatburger or not.

Semi-anonymous
 February 10, 2007, 6:26 PM

I say yes

I vote fatburger. Compared to Kwikway's cold hard patties and terribly greasy bag o'fries, Fatburger looks like an oasis. Have the people that are voting against this actually ever been to quikway? Obviously not or the choice would be obvious. Get rid of this bad food shack! And for all those people holding out for something better, I've been holding out for 30+ years. I'm ready for something better for my neighborhood.

D Williams
 February 10, 2007, 5:23 PM

I say yes

The ideal should not be the enemy of improvement of this longstanding blight.

Semi-anonymous
 February 10, 2007, 4:19 PM

I say yes

It necessary to have black owned business in Oakland. It seems like we are not in America and they are trying to block black people from having businesses in what is now a more caucasian neighborhood. I also read about the Racist Anti-Asian remark on the owners of Quikway Burgers. Its already a Burger place so why worry about the same business coming in ?

Bob Branstrom
 February 10, 2007, 1:52 PM

I say yes

The blight that is Oakland is partly that way because investors have to run the gauntlet of neighborhood and government bureacracy. This makes it very difficult to invest in the city. It appears the Hahns have bent over backwards and lost money trying to make accomodations. I say let them run their business and start bringing tax money into the city. Otherwise, they will simply go down as another example of why investors should steer clear of Oakland.

Semi-anonymous
 February 10, 2007, 12:20 PM

I say yes

Huh? A non-union, agressive growth, big box chain store from SoCal agrees to move in and everyone cheers, but then everyone attacks a proposed Fatburger? Trader Joe's vs Fatburger? What's the difference? Trader Joe's may be thought of as progressive and green, but its number one concern is the bottom line - the same as Fatburger
Bart

John Ireland
 February 10, 2007, 11:36 AM

I say yes

Please replace the Kwik Way with a vastly improved hamburger joint and make our neighborhood a better place.

Rob Miller
 February 10, 2007, 11:09 AM

I say yes

I fail to understand why there is any opposition to this at all. Fatburger will in all likelihood be a major upgrade over Kwik Way (though I DO love their greasy fries).

What do people want? For those of you who feel "gosh, wouldn't it be nice if (fill in the blank) was here," would you put up your OWN money, rather than suggesting that taxpayers do so?

Whatever goes here, it has to be economically viable. Just get out of the way and let the new owner make a go of it.

Semi-anonymous
 February 10, 2007, 10:45 AM

I say yes

Fatburger is an L.A. chain and their burgers are actually very good--when I would visit friends in Hermosa Beach with my kids we would always eat there at least once during the week!

Judy Power
 February 10, 2007, 7:54 AM

I say yes

Weighing the likelihood of another endless exploration of alternatives while the Kwik Way & Serenader moulder against the prospect of a new facility run professionally, I can't think of a good reason to oppose this use. I don't know why people in this part of Oakland think there's something wrong with a hamburger place -- not everything has to cater to the elite or the rarefied. I also find the prospect of losing the parking lot to some hypothetical development a big negative. The owners have tried in good faith to explore alternatives and they haven't panned out. So I say bring on the burgers and shakes. I'd go there.

Guy Brenner
 February 9, 2007, 11:25 PM

I say yes

Big Fat YES. I've had Fatburgers in LA, and let me assure one and all that this is one great restaurant. Our lives will all be improved incrementally by eating delicious food. If you are thinking of opposing this opportunity, first try a Double King Chili with Bacon and Egg. It's heavenly.

John Rechenbach
 February 9, 2007, 10:35 PM

I say yes

We live in a massive metropolitan area and if people want more successful business then that equals more traffic (you will see when Trader Joe's opens). This is part of life in a city. I would rather have that area cleanded up by anyone who want's to make a go at it and see if they succeed. I think things are planned to death and successful stores don't want to bother with our areas. Rents have gotten so high that only large chains can foot the bill so people should be annoyed with the property owners if mom and pops are not opening up shop or are driven out.John Rechenbach.

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