It's their land and those trees are no more than 80 years old. They're hardly "sacred". Get real. Protect 1000 years old redwood trees. Too much energy is being spent for scrub oak. As a furniture maker I can't even make something out of the wood. It's firewood.

I'm a Cal student and we need more room for athletes! UC is promising to plant 2 trees for every 1 removed. I'd sympathize more with the sitters were they UCB students, but they're not, many are from outside the area.

Work locally folks!

I guess it's not unusual in self-centered Berkeley that none of the comments takes into account the needs of the Berkeley students, in their thousands. Certainly their needs should take precendence over the preservation of a site of dubious historical value.

The cost of building this Center is skyrocketing while Zachery Running Wolf and others sit petulantly in trees and demand their own way.

I don't care so much either way about where the much needed Center is located -- but I think it is imperative that the University not back down because of the actions of people who have broken laws and will break more. Masks seem inappropriate when acts of civil disobedience are commited -- this is just bullying.

On a different note -- the trees in the grove are approaching the end of of their lifecycle, and will die in the next few years whether or not others are planted in their place.

the cost to the environment is too great. You can not replace the vegitation it will destroy.

Look, guys.
Really, the trees are NOT that big of a deal. The UC has agreed to plant two trees for every one they cut down, and just because those trees are a little old doesn't mean we should hesitate to give Cal Athletics the facilities it needs! Cal athletes are having to CHANGE IN THEIR CARS instead of a decent locker room. Cutting down a few old trees DOES NOT MATTER!

While no active fault has been found under the site, it is sufficiently close to the fault that I can't believe we really know where the next surface faulting will occur to that level of accuracy.

The oak trees, on the other hand, are not "old growth" and deserve no special consideration.

The question is phrased inappropriately,
a more sincere question would be
--Should the university build a Student Athlete High Performance Center on top of a an indian burial ground and 80 year old oak grove planted as a memorial to fallen soldiers, with 2 250yr old oak trees?

or better yet
--Should the university consider alternative sites to the oak grove, like ones that are not on an earth quake fault line?

or even better?
-- Should the university consider rebuilding the stadium at the orginal sit it was designed for, edwards feild?
-this location is not on a faultline and a creek, and is therefor not a death trap.
-is directly next to the existing modern athletic training facilities.The RSF//recreational Sports Facility
-is adjecent to BART station and Bus many bus lines.. Great for public Transit
-could share parking with downtown berkeley merchants and customers,on the 340 days a year that there are no event at the stadium...
Business needs parking
-You must know that the stadium was built on berkeleys only natural swimminghole and largest waterfall. Its assessed Value is zero to $1000. period, the earth quake retrofitting cost as much as rebuilding. It would be cheaper to knock the beautiful beast down and rebuild a safe stadium on the edwards feild location.

Kitchen Democracy is being misused and questions are being frammed in an insincere manner, This is a request for help understanding how to improve the quality of the kitchen democracy qustions and process, it is currently biased

--Asa

The stadium and the sports arena should not be placed directly on top of an active fault. It is playing Russian roulet with too many lives.

The stadium area is old and in need of restoration/renewal. This is the first step toward that restoration. The University's plans will for the most part preserve the beauty of the site. It is too bad that some trees must be cut down. I think the offer by the University to plant new trees is a fair compromise.
-Paul Deuter

I feel strongly about keeping the grove of Oak trees, particulary since we (Berkeley folk and Californians) may loose so many oaks from the sudden oak death disease. We need to keep as many great trees as possible. I'm also very concerned about the proximity to the Hayward fault.

This question should be about building the Student Athlete Center, not about tree removal. We live in an urban area with and there are still so many trees on the hill above campus.

As a nearby resident I am appalled at the effects of UCB athletic/sporting events on the surrounding neighborhoods: parking becomes worse than it already is, traffic clogs all the local nearby arteries (especially at the close of games), increased pedestrian noise, intoxication and rowdiness (occasionally resulting in vandaliism); in short a lot of very negative environmental impacts become consolidated in consequence to these routine sporting events.

The prospect of giving greater credibility to UCB athletic events and thereby increasing these negative environmental impacts is not something I can support. I am therefore very against any new sports venues and events.

Adding more

The proposed SAHPC, whether on or near the fault, should not be built. I beleive UCB should look to more practical and safer sites for a new stadium and the center. The current stadium is not in an accessible/convenient location-if UCB and private funders want a stadium and sports training center-terrific! BUT lets take this opportunity to locate it all in a better spot!!! When the stadium was built in 1923 Berkeley looked much different than it does now. It is now surrounded by a bigger UCB and a large residential area with no major arterial streets to access the stadium.

The constant creation of 'outstanding' is a false distinction, rising out of several alienating standards and factors, the predominant one being individual material assets - money, etc.
Along with this goes the separation required in a competitive society - competitive for financial gain. Standards are raised that have little and now less to do with satisfactory living.
Ignored are the many merits people do have that are not raised to heroic positions - outside the norm.
Most people experience lack of support from their earliest ages, thus inhibiting their abilities and intentions to do one or many things as well as to do them well.
Outstanding does not belong in a just society. Competition for monetary gain does not, too.
Enjoyment as the aim counters these separating goals.
Needless to mention is the constant covering of Earth with concrete, in this case, removing old trees, for the glory the school expects.

Please, No building, Haven't we learned from the man-made disaster of levee failures in New Orleans? To rebuild in Strawberry Canyon--on filled land is not good common sense--it is faulty. We do know the Canyon is riddled with fault traces, splays, springs of geologic water, and designated faults that are slightly active (cf. USGS) yet are in danger of faulting again. We don't know when or what harms future earth quakes will do to manmade built projects which will likely kill or hurt people in our community.

It would be prudent to work towards a fuller discourse on the site, worst disaster scenarios, least worst scenarios, and a thorough evaluation of alternative sites be vetted before a decision is made to push on with the present plan. The potential risks to human life and safety of student athletes and neighbors requires a far deeper analysis than the preliminary trenching, boring and fault trace studies to date. Earthquake science is historically quite new-barely 100 years since Lawson followed sags, creeks and ponds to map out what was called the San Andreas Fault.

The historical presence of Strawberry Creek with its odd looking offset in the watershed area planned for construction suggests a cautionary strategy--in short, we should opt for more careful detailed studies and have those studies debated publicly by scientists who do not support the plan and those that do support the plan.

The no then yes politics on this issue has illustrated that we cannot rely on the USGS or the California Geologic Survey to be neutral--independent of their colleagues' influences and shared friendship networks, thus studies must be done by others out of the country who are truly independent. The California Environmental Quality Act is out of date and needs to be expanded given the seismic threats and OTHER threats to our health and safety that we know to expect. It is not often said publically, but we do know that Strawberry Canyon and environs is designated by Homeland Security as a highly vulnerable zone in the current defense strategy of the nation. Has Homeland Security been asked to submit their thinking to this discourse? Please, Mr. Wozniack, ask them for a report.

For the safety of my grandchildren attending Cal Bears games, and a granddaughter who plays in the band, I want a stadium/ athletic center for them much farther away from Strawberry Canyon. Thank you.

ANOTHER THOUSAND TIMES NO, NO AND NO - for many of the same reasons I argued for another location for the Haas Business School. Where are those people parking? Every day I see them driving! Filling and more filling of that glorious, green open eastern end of my alma mater breaks my heart. More buildings, cars, people and congestion continue to obliterate the most beautiful and last natural edge of the Campus. Put our beloved athletes nearer our sick and neglected downtown! Put the suppport staff, the cars and the traffic near BART and the buses, the restaurants, the clubs, the library, the theatres and the shops. There is absolutely no argument for building this multi-purpose "jewel" on an earthquake fault in the trees in our foothills and residential neighborhoods. For shame!

Sports is a distraction from college life. Big football should be subsidized by professional football and doesn't belong on campus.

to close to earthquake fault

Sports should be for ALL students. I have never liked the university's acting as a farm system for major league sports.